Episode 36

Ep. 36: Journaling to Release Baggage and Craft Self-Care Lists: Your First Step to Heal People-Pleasing

Published on: 22nd July, 2025

“Healing is a time to be playful...letting go, loosening your grip, being in the here and now, having some fun, having some laughter and joy."- Jenny Leckey

Jenny Leckey is back with a new season of the Diary of a Recovering People Pleaser Podcast! In this episode, she reintroduces herself and the podcast's mission to offer a supportive, inclusive space for people pleasers at any stage of their healing journey. 

She shares her own background, from radio to teaching, and now to energy healing and spiritual mentorship. She stresses the importance of feeling seen through shared stories and how it can start to change your habits and rewire your brain. 

Jenny also introduces her personal definition of people pleasing and offers advice for starting your recovery journey through journaling and taking small, joyful self care steps to start to change your life.

00:00 Welcome Back to the Podcast!

01:16 Meet Your Host: Jenny Leckey

03:31 Understanding People Pleasing

04:26 Defining People Pleasing

05:57 The Healing Journey

08:34 Journaling: Practical Tips for Recovery

About The Host:

  • Work with Jenny - Book 1:1 Reiki or psychic channeled reading sessions. Offered virtually or in person in Buffalo, NY. Jenny also offers Reiki certification classes!

Diary of a Recovering People Pleaser

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It is been a while.

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We took a break, but we are back.

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Diary of Recovering People

Pleaser Podcast is back with

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a whole new round of episodes.

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My name is Jenny Luckey.

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If you're new to the show,

welcome, welcome, welcome.

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this is an inclusive

space for people pleasers.

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It doesn't matter where you

are on your healing journey.

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All are welcome.

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The goal is for you to feel seen through

other people's stories, to know that

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you're not alone, and to get practical

tips about how you can start to change

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your habits, to change your life, how

you can start rewiring your brain to make

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different decisions and how it looks.

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When we take those risks and change our

ways and tell people no, and to learn

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from other people's mistakes so you

don't have to go through the same things.

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But you know, honestly, sometimes

when I've ended up having difficult

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conversations with folks, when I'm

setting a boundary or changing a habit,

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those conversations have, yeah, they

might have been difficult, but they're

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actually some of the most productive and.

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Biggest turning points in my

healing journey, but I digress.

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Welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome.

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This feels like a great time

to tell you who the heck I am.

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My name's Jenny Leckey.

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I'm located here in

Buffalo, New York, and.

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I have had many different parts of

my journey if we're talking career.

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I started in radio, that's why

I feel like I've come home to

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my podcast here behind the mic.

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And then I was an high school

English teacher for a decade.

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So definitely an avid reader.

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Loved to write.

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Love to analyze texts and look

for metaphorical meanings,

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which comes in handy when you

are on your healing journey.

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And most recently, I took a leap of faith

and started out on my own, and I have a

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business where I and lead meditations.

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Do all things Reiki- I teach.

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I am heading out on my spiritual

mentoringship path soon, more

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details coming about that.

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I host retreats, but most

importantly, I have this joyful,

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fun little podcast just for you.

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I know that in my healing journey,

feeling seen and knowing that

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I'm not alone in how I'm feeling

as I'm trying to change my life.

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That has been a godsend for me.

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So I hope that as you listen maybe

to past episodes and the ones that

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are coming up, that you can find a

little piece of yourself in these

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real life day-to-day experiences that

people are sharing in these stories.

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And I really love the fact that

people pleasers have the courage

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to come on a podcast and tell their

story because that is the ultimate.

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Like boundary check, right?

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Being able to tell the world how you

think and feel and take up space on

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the interwebs behind a microphone.

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That is some like cool ass shit.

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And I'm super proud of everyone

who shared their story.

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If you want to share your story, I would

love to talk to you, so shoot me an email.

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All that good info is in the show notes.

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All right, so that is the background of.

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Where my brain is and what

history I'm coming from and

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what life experience I have.

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So let's talk about what it looks like

when you are a recovering people pleaser.

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So my first season was 35 episodes,

a mix of my stories and people coming

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on and sharing their story with me.

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And one thing I noticed is that

everyone has their own definition

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of what people pleasing is which I

think is very interesting and cool

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because we can have this collective

understanding that we are possibly

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putting other people before ourselves.

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We're calling ourselves people pleasers,

but within that it's so nuanced.

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So there's space for everyone.

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There is a way to heal

that is unique to you.

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So what any of us shares

if it doesn't resonate?

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Don't feel that you have to

do all the things, but try

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something, give it a whirl.

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I will share with you what my

definition of people pleasing is,

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so you understand the basis of where

I'm coming from in my episodes.

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To me, people pleasing is

abandoning your connection between

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you little y and You big y.

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In other words, you have abandoned,

you've cut off connection with, you're

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not even listening to your connection

with you and your highest self, your soul.

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I heard someone call it an over soul,

your intuition, your inner voice,

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it doesn't matter what you call it.

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The point is that you're not listening.

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You're not tuned in, and instead your

receptors are tuned into the world around

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you and you are worried about managing

the experience of every person, place,

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and thing around you while completely

leaving yourself out of the equation.

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That is the simplest way

that I can explain it, and

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then I've discovered through.

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Basically backward analyzing

my past behaviors and choices.

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I started off by asking

myself, how did I get here?

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What do I keep saying

and doing or not saying?

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And not doing over and over and over

again so much that it's become not only

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a habit, but a lot of the times these

things became a part of my personality.

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Because essentially your personality

are just a set of habits that

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you do over and over again.

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So I'll just say that this

recovery process is definitely

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not an overnight thing.

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You don't go to some weekend retreat

and walk away cured and healed.

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This has been years in the making, so

it's going to take time to readjust, but-

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don't feel overwhelmed.

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If anything, it's a time to be playful.

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I feel that people pleasers a lot

of time are so tense and trying to

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control everything that the healing

journey should be the opposite.

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It should be letting go, loosening your

grip, being in the here and now, having

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some fun, having some laughter and joy,

and really reshaping your approach.

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instead of focusing on how's everyone

else feeling, tapping into your

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inner world and assessing how you

are feeling at any given moment.

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Being light and breezy about it, I would

say is one of the biggest pieces of advice

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I could give because many people that I've

discussed people pleasing with usually

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have other things that they identify

with in tandem, whether it be chronic

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stress, anxiety which includes rumination.

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It could include, um, different if we

wanna talk about attachment styles.

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I don't know.

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I've read mixed reviews about the

legitimacy of that, but since people

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talk about it, um, it can lead to

anxious attachment or even avoidant

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attachment as well, if there's a

fear of disappointing other people.

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So, people pleasing to me

is like an umbrella term.

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That's just an overarching

term that most people know.

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And then within that, there's

so many different facets.

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There's so many different aspects

of yourself where you might find

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that in one area of your life,

you people please all the time.

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Like maybe when you interact

with family members, it's like

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this switch flips in your brain.

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You're like, who am I?

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I am totally a different person

and completely people pleasing when

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I'm in front of you know, uncle Joe

Schmo, but, when I'm with my coworkers

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i'm very decisive and I make strong

deadlines, and I take people's

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opinions into consideration, but I

don't feel like I'm being wishy-washy.

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I'm being direct, but kind with my words.

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So you can have two different worlds

and almost feel like you are in that

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John Travolta movie Face Off, where

you have different faces, and that

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is completely normal because people

pleasing is just an overarching term.

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There's so many different aspects

of our lives and our personalities

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that are impacted by it.

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All of that is to say, if

you're at the beginning of your

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healing journey, I implore you.

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Take some time in a comfortable

space with just you and you alone.

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Put some nice music on, maybe

make yourself a nice cup of tea.

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Just relax.

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Maybe you wanna cuddle with your dog

or cat or hamster, whatever it may be.

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And journal.

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That's really how it started for me

and not the type of journaling where

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you're like, dear diary today, I

People pleased at the dentist's office.

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No, no, no.

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I like to do the type of journaling where

it's about processing your thinking, so

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when you're moving your hand on the paper,

it might look messy or gibberish and it

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might look like it's a different language.

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That is fine.

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Dumping your thoughts, your feelings.

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Where you think people pleasing began?

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How you feel about being a people

pleaser , is there shame and

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guilt that comes up with that?

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Dump all that crap onto a piece of

paper and it doesn't matter that

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you can't read it because you're

not gonna go back and read it.

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Why would you wanna go backwards?

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Why would you wanna go look at that?

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Dump it out of your body, dump it outta

your brain, get it on the paper, and then

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you are starting with a clean slate.

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You're like, okay, I acknowledged

all these things that I'm

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thinking and feeling right now.

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Now I'm starting from a space of,

okay, we've turned the corner.

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What is next?

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What do I want to do next?

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And then have that list started

in your journal and don't have

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it to be about healing yourself.

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Have it be a list of things that are

for you and you alone, because I would

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say that that is probably the number

one thing that I've noticed from all

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these conversations from 35 episodes.

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That is probably the hardest thing, is

figuring out what the heck you prefer,

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what you like to do, what you like

to listen to, what you would choose

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to do, because you've given away that

choosing power to others for so long.

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So this is your permission slip.

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After you've dumped everything out

there, now you're gonna fill yourself

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back up With things that are for you

and you alone for your wellness, for

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your wellbeing, for your mental health,

whether that is deciding, you know what?

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I'm gonna go finger paint in the

backyard because it sounds fun.

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I am gonna go for a walk.

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I am gonna go get in the car, get myself

a coffee, and I am gonna go cruise

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and go for a road trip this weekend.

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Whatever it is, give yourself that

space and that permission slip to do it.

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And it doesn't have to be a long thing.

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It could be something that's five

minutes long, but taking those little

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steps will help your brain to feel safe.

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If you can take those little steps of

putting yourself first for like fun

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things that you enjoy, and you build

that capacity and that container within

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yourself to hold space, then you are going

to be able to hold space for yourself

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when you put yourself first for the bigger

stuff, like when you're telling your

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boss that you need off, and that's that.

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And not overexplaining yourself of why

you need off of work, or when you're

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telling your friend you really don't

appreciate when they comment on your body.

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And saying, I don't talk

about bodies anymore.

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And you hold that line.

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And when people do, you make

the decision for yourself,

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you're leaving the conversation.

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Like, that's harder stuff, right?

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You're being forced to be a little

more direct and speak up for yourself.

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So speaking up for yourself, start small.

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Start with things that are enjoyable for

you, and if that feels uncomfortable, go

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down your list and find the thing that

has the least amount of risk for yourself.

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So there is your homework assignment.

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I don't really have a timeframe

for , how long you should do that.

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I personally do that when I feel

like I'm falling off the wagon.

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So I do it periodically for myself.

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And I think that , even if you aren't

further ahead, quote unquote, 'cause

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you can never be finished, uh, you're

always recovering people pleaser.

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But if you're further long down the line,

this is a great practice to touch in with

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yourself, do a little self-assessing.

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See if there are deeper layers

that have come to the surface

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that need to be healed.

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Okay.

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Disclaimer, I am not a therapist

or a trained psychologist.

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I am just a person who's read a

lot of books and you know, has

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a teacher background and does

energy healing and all that stuff.

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So I'm coming at it from like a sideways

angle and from personal experience, this

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is all stuff that's worked well for me.

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I would love to hear

how your progress goes.

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So hit me up on social media.

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Please let me know how it's going,

and again, if your list includes

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being on a podcast to tell your

story, I would love to hear from you.

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That is all for now.

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I am cheering for you.

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I am rooting for you on the sidelines

that you are going to master whatever

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you put in front of yourself on this

next step of your recovery journey.

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Catch you later.

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About the Podcast

Diary of a Recovering People Pleaser
Real life stories of people pleasers healing in the wild
Dive into heartfelt diary-style episodes and candid interviews that explore real world, authentic people pleasing stories and practical healing tools.

Hosted by Jenny Leckey, a former English teacher turned Reiki Master and meditation guide, this podcast blends spirituality and psychology to help you break free from people pleaser patterns and embrace self-healing.

Cozy up for deep, late-night sofa chat vibes as we touch on topics like Reiki, meditation, journaling, energy work, and more—offering guidance, comfort, and a dose of courage to transform your life. You're not alone on this journey. Let’s heal together!

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