Episode 29

Ep 29: Ditch the To Do List - Focus on Your "Goodbye" List Instead

Published on: 18th December, 2024

“"It's like the devil, you know, Right? It's the comfort, you know.” - Jenny Leckey

In this episode, Jenny discusses her transformative six-month coaching program with her Ayurveda coach, Dawn. She delves into the importance of saying goodbye to habits and relationships that no longer serve us, especially in the context of people pleasing. 

Jenny shares her personal journey, including past experiences with depression, friendship breakups, and finding out she has celiac disease. She emphasizes the need to create space for new, healthy habits by releasing old patterns and poses the critical question to listeners: What are you ready to say goodbye to?

00:00 Introduction to My Ayurveda Journey

00:24 The Struggle with Habit Change

01:09 Connecting Habit Change to People Pleasing

01:58 Saying Goodbye to People Pleasing

03:36 A Painful Goodbye: Ending a Friendship

07:08 Discovering the Root Cause of Fatigue

09:18 The Importance of Saying Goodbye

10:03 Reflecting on What to Say Goodbye To

12:32 Conclusion: Embracing Change

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Transcript
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I just finished up my six month

coaching program with my ayurveda coach.

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If you haven't heard of that.

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It's an amazing way of living the heal,

your health and all that great stuff.

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It's from India.

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It's uh, in partnership

with yoga, if you will.

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It's all about not only creating new

habits, but you know, releasing old and.

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There were times when

Dawn would tell me, okay.

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Let's do the thing and then I would

resist it and then she would check in

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on me and I hadn't even done it yet.

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We're talking on paper, simple stuff,

such as did you do the 15 minute

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guided Kundalini yoga in the morning?

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And I'm like, no.

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In theory, it should be so easy.

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But, changing a habit

required me to say goodbye.

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Say goodbye to what.

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Well, maybe a little more

sleep in the morning.

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Comfort.

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Comfort and where I am

comfort in current habits.

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Comfort in.

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not changing right?

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Even though we know current and

habits might not be serving us.

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It's like the devil, you know?

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Right.

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It's the comfort, you know?

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So, what does this have to

do with people pleasing?

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Well, I bring it up because

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as detrimental and frustrating

and resentment filled these

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people pleasing habits might be.

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We still resist . We still often get

this feeling of, I don't want to say

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goodbye to it, and there's a weird way.

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Do you resonate with that?

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Because I surely do.

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I've said in previous episodes that it's

sometimes easier to just people please.

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So the big question I've asked

myself is what am I ready and

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willing to say goodbye to.

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And yes, on the grander scheme of

things, it might be saying goodbye

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to a friendship or relationship,

a job, a situation, right?

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This huge thing.

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That's not serving you

and pulling you down.

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Yes, I get that, but it

really is the small things.

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What are you willing to say goodbye to.

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Some things that I have said

goodbye to as I'm healing.

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My people pleasing is.

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Saying goodbye to having

everyone around me.

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Be perfectly pleased with me all the time.

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And have had to say hello to sitting

in the tension while someone else

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processes what I've just said.

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I've had to say goodbye to

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inner resistance to boundaries.

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And I've had to say hello to

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giving myself permission to

take up space by saying no, or

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giving us a different suggestion.

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Saying goodbye to FOMO as well.

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Having multiple options in your

calendar and only picking one

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of them and not having FOMO.

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Because underneath the people pleasing,

when we say yes to going to things that we

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necessarily don't want to go to or helping

when we are depleted energetically,

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there is some times that FOMO.

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You have this fear of missing

out on something as well.

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And you're having to say

goodbye to that, or like, Hmm.

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That's okay.

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I'm going to let you go and I'm going

to go do my other thing and that's okay.

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And Honestly, it is also saying

goodbye sometimes to relationships

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that have run its course.

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I have said goodbye to friendships.

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Some of them.

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We're way at the beginning

of my people pleaser journey.

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And others have just naturally

faded out because we don't

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resonate with each other anymore.

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Because I am not necessarily

who I was before.

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And I've had to say goodbye to

that version of myself as well.

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Interestingly enough.

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I do recall this one friendship

I had to say goodbye to.

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That was quite painful.

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This person I would have called

my best friend at the time.

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This was years ago, I was in a

really, really, really bad depression.

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now I understand as well, it

was like a dark night of the

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soul spiritually speaking.

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But during the day I put on my mask

and I went to school and I taught.

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And I socialized, but when I

came home, Aye went into what I

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called my cave, my living room.

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I close the blinds, was in the dark.

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I would sink into my couch.

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I would play song pop and just

do you want to escape my world.

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And it was this heaviness over me.

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This is where you have to say goodbye

to certain qualities or lack there of,

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and people, if they're not serving you

this person then I called my best friend.

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Um, Basically went on with

her days and ended up.

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Calling me out saying that I had

changed and what was wrong with me

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and I wasn't being a good friend.

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When I had mentioned before

in conversation, then I

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was feeling depressed.

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But she didn't hear that.

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And we ended up having this

fight and I had this meltdown.

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Basically about not being seen and instead

of coming in and saying, oh my goodness, I

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didn't know just how deep and dark it was.

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I didn't know all you

were going through, Jenny.

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How can I be there for you?

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She lashed out.

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Got really resentful of me.

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Got nasty and we stopped talking.

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I'm laughing because I understand

the bigger picture now.

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I was not laughing in the moment.

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I was very angry.

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I was upset, hurt all those feelings.

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People pleaser me.

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Could have chased after her.

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"Oh, I'm sorry.

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It wasn't there as a good friend."

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And "I'm so sorry that I made you

feel this way and you're upset.

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How can I fix this?"

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I could have done that, but I

said goodbye to that friendship.

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Because I want to say that was

probably one of my first times of

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truly, really putting a boundary up.

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I was not going to be treated that way.

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I was not going to have people in my

inner circle who behaved that way when

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I was at the lowest point in my life.

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And that is how the person

who's to respond to that.

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That's not working for me.

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So I had to say goodbye to it

and there is some empowerment

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and liberation in doing so.

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Even amongst the pain and the hurt and

the betrayal and all those heavy feelings.

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There was also a sense of freedom

of liberation of fuck yeah.

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I stood up for myself.

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Hell yeah, I got my own back.

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That is an addicting feeling.

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Especially for someone who's abandoned

herself her entire life -to not

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abandon yourself in those moments.

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Ooh, does that feel good.

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So I had to say goodbye

to that friendship.

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And I also had to say goodbye to

that pattern of allowing people to

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treat me that way and chasing after

them to try to bandage things up.

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And since then, you know,

it'll, I call it a flare up.

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Flare up once in awhile.

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I will have moments where all of a

sudden, I feel like I want to chase after

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someone and make them feel better even

at my own expense, but I catch myself.

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That's the difference.

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I catch myself and I say, no, no, no.

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Uh, we think about it.

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That that's a goodbye.

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Bye bye.

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Bye bye.

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That's not here anymore.

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In my ayurveda journey, I so

desperately wanted to say goodbye to

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this immense fatigue I was feeling.

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I was having terrible inflammation.

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I just felt so poorly physically and

exhausted, and I so badly wanted to say

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goodbye to it, so I was trying to focus

on what I want to say hello to, and I

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kept trying to add in all of these habits.

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Like the movement, the okay,

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don't nap.

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Um, make sure you do X, Y, Z

in the morning in the evening.

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But I hadn't found the root cause of

the stuff I want to say goodbye.

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I do.

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So I hadn't said goodbye to that.

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It was all still there feeling like shit.

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So.

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I ended up combining the concepts of

ayurveda, with going to the doctor

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and demanding seeing a specialist

in blood work, which led to tests

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and the diagnosis of celiac disease.

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Wouldn't you know, that when I found

that answer out, it explained everything.

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I was able to say goodbye to gluten.

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And I've noticed a buoy up of

energy and space and clarity.

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A losing of heaviness in my

body, whether it's physically

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losing weight and energetically.

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And now I have space to say

hello to more of these habits.

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I have the capacity, the energy

to do so, but if I hadn't been

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curious, About my current state.

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If I had just tried to ignore

it and stuff it down and just

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keep muddling through my days.

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I would still be feeling that way.

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I wouldn't have said goodbye to anything.

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And I wouldn't have consistently

said hello and kept these new habits.

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So it has to start with

a sense of curiosity.

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Oh, a wondering of why do I feel this way?

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What is going on and why?

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What needs to be said goodbye to,

and what needs to be said hello to.

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That was a game changer for me.

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I was able to use those habits, say

hello to those ayurveda to practices,

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to support me on my healing journey.

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Once I found, in my case, it was like

the root medical cause of this right.

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But this also applies to people pleasing.

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So that was my medical- my

physical ailment that was

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impacting all areas of my life.

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The same thing applies to our

mental and emotional habits

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and how we might deprioritize our

own wellbeing in our own selves.

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I think a lot of the times

when we are trying to heal.

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Whatever it may be, whether it was

healing my physical health with my

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ayurveda coach or healing people

pleasing habits within my relationships.

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Whatever the type of healing it may be.

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I think a lot of the times we have all

of these pieces of information that are

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given to us of what you should be doing.

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But we haven't made space for it by saying

goodbye to things that no longer service.

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So my suggestion for you, especially as

we're ending the end of the year here.

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As we come upon the winter solstice

here in the Northern hemisphere.

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Changing and seasons.

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It's the perfect time to make a list of

what you are ready to say goodbye to.

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So we're not making a list of to-do- we're

making a list of release, of goodbye.

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Sianora where there's this

people, places, things, habits,

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or beliefs within ourselves.

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So what are you willing to say goodbye to?

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Either believing about yourself or others.

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Saying about yourself or others.

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Doing against yourself, or for others

that are not serving your highest good.

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And once you decided what

you were ready to say goodbye

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to, and maybe it's one thing.

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That's perfect.

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Start with one.

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Once you say goodbye, then you can

start bringing in this a new stuff.

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We can start saying

hello to the new things.

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But I, at least I've learned this for

myself when I try to say hello to new

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things, and I haven't really dealt with

the shit that I'm here to say goodbye to.

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Um, I ended up saying

goodbye to the new stuff.

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It just doesn't infiltrate.

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It doesn't stick.

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It doesn't have the sticky, gooeyness

of belonging in my life yet, because I

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haven't said goodbye to the shit that

I need to let go of that's old baggage.

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I know that sounds complicated.

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I don't want you to

overcomplicate this at all.

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Just observe moments in your day when

maybe your stomach drops or your S your

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chest is tight, or you just feel blah

or someone says, or does something.

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That starts to make you

feel bad about yourself.

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Pause in that moment.

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And reflect.

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Is there something about this relationship

dynamic that needs to say goodbye.

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Or does this person believe

something about me and I agree

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with it that doesn't serve me.

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Do I need to say goodbye to that?

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Do I need to say goodbye to an entire

relationship or career or friendship?

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It could be any of those

levels, but just pay attention.

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Your daily life shows you

what you need to know.

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So don't rush into it.

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Meaning don't feel like this is

a homework assignment where you

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have to go sit down and journal.

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Write the second.

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But also don't put this

on the back burner.

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And just keep muddling along, allow

yourself to be open to that change.

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So again, What.

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Are you ready to say goodbye to?

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