Episode 26

Ep 26: Improv Permission Slip to Take Up Space- My People Pleaser Revelation

Published on: 6th December, 2024

"Underneath all the people pleasing, underneath all the molding yourself to make other people feel comfortable, underneath all of that protective layer is your true essence, and people can see it."- Jenny Leckey 

In this episode, Jenny recounts a transformative lesson during an improv class years ago. She shares how her improv teacher saw that she wasn’t taking up space on stage, instead worrying about everyone else (classic covery people pleasing). He encouraged her to do the opposite - that she was allowed to take up space. This eye-opening advice encouraged her to start changing this habit in other areas of her life.

Jenny reflects on how being open to feedback and receiving new perspectives from others can lead to significant self-discovery and change. She discusses how having a growth mindset is key as well as being open to feedback in order to grow and change.  

00:00 Introduction: A Pivotal Improv Moment

01:57 The Lesson: Taking Up Space

03:51 Reflection: The Impact of Words

05:56 Conclusion: Embracing Growth


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Transcript
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As I was thinking about this topic, it reminded me of this.

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Pivotal moment during

an improv class in:

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This person probably doesn't even

realize that this conversation that

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we had, it was my improv teacher in

Myrtle beach and we were learning, I

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think how to do characters on stage.

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Honestly, it doesn't even

matter what we were learning.

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But he had been obviously watching us in

class week after week and you're on stage.

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If you're not familiar with improv,

it's in the moment off the cuff.

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On the fly comedy.

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It's like the show whose line is it

anyway, that's short form improv.

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You don't have a script.

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You hop on stage and maybe

you get a suggestion.

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Sometimes you don't even, you

just open your mouth and see

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whatever the hell happens, right?

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It's very freeing and I highly recommend

everyone taking an improv class.

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it is therapy in motion.

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What I've noticed over the years of

being involved with improv is that my

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personal habits will play out on stage,

whether it's through a character or

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how I present myself on stage, which

leads me to this people pleasing moment.

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Which will live with me forever.

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It was one of those moments that slammed

me into reality a holy crap moment.

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So going back to that class day, I

don't know what we were doing on stage.

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It doesn't matter.

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All I know is we were applying these

skills, so my teacher was giving us

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advice hey, why don't you try this?

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It was great.

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So we had class, and then at the end

of class, we're all packing up, and

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we all become friendly, so I was chit

chatting with people, and then my

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teacher called me over, and was like,

hey, can I talk to you for a second?

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And I can't remember exactly, obviously,

word for word, what he said, but along

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the lines of, And I remember afterwards

it made me cry as I reflected about it.

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I remember getting in my car and crying.

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It's going to make me cry now.

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He told me, you are allowed

to take up space, Jenny.

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And I looked at him, confused.

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What are you talking about?

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He said, you're allowed to take up space.

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He said, I watch you.

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I see you looking at everyone else

and you are calculating to make sure

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everyone has equal representation.

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Everyone gets some time in the spotlight.

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And within that, I was

holding myself back.

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He saw it.

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I wasn't stepping forward.

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I wasn't initiating scenes because

I wanted to be fair, and I wanted to

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take care of everyone else, and I put

everyone else's needs before my own.

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And therefore I wasn't initiating,

which in an improvising world

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means I wasn't starting scenes.

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I wasn't Following my intuition, I was

literally holding myself back physically,

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and mentally, and spiritually on stage.

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And all I was doing was

scanning and making sure

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everyone else was taken care of.

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And he said something along the lines

of, You're being the mother hen on stage.

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oh my gosh, I had this flashback.

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That's what my friends

in college called me.

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Oh, Jenny is the mother hen.

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When we would go out, I would always

be taking care of everyone for the most

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part, making sure everyone was okay.

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And I was the mother hen, the

quintessential people pleaser mother hen.

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And for him to see that on stage,

playing out through my own character

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Through my body language, by literally

observing me not following my feet, not

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following my intuition, blew my mind.

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And to have someone who's not

close to me say to me, you

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are allowed to take up space.

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And basically his task for me for the

next class was you are going to initiate.

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You are going to take space.

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I don't want you worrying

about anyone else.

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I want you to worry about yourself.

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I, that was such a mirror moment

for me to feel so seen by someone

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and to be given permission and being

told that it's okay to focus on

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yourself, Jenny, to trust yourself

and to not worry about other people.

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Holy crap.

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That was so powerful.

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So powerful.

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And this man doesn't even

remember this conversation.

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I guarantee it.

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Because it was not a big deal.

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It was like a sidebar conversation

that took maybe 60 seconds, right?

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You never know how someone is

going to be changed by your words.

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If you are called To say something

from the heart like this, say it with

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love because look at this moment.

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I'm talking about it and

it's six years later.

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That moment shifted something within me.

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I will also say I was

open to receiving it.

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That's also important.

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I was already on my healing

journey at that point.

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I was already doing the work, I was

meditating and all that great stuff.

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I was already open to receiving

feedback from anyone and anything.

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I already had a growth mindset.

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So it's twofold.

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If you want to receive from others, you

have to be willing to receive from others

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and also look at things a blessing.

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I could have looked at it from

the ego and been Defensive and

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who does he think he is or denial?

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I could have not been open to what he

had to say and think I knew best, but

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this felt like he was a messenger from

my spirit team or from God spirit

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was speaking through him to me.

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I needed to hear that

in that place in time.

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And the fact that he

used the term mother hen.

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Got my attention even more so because

that was a label placed on me, which is

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just another word for people pleaser.

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It was a game changer for me.

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So thank you, Kevin, my improv teacher,

for a comment that I'll never forget.

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That changed who I am.

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I'm sure everyone has moments like that.

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You might have even had them

and didn't think about them.

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And then they might arise in your

mind whenever you actually needed it.

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Be open and curious.

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And know that everyone is a mirror.

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And the only way that this shift will

really start sticking is if you're open

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to receiving that reflection from people

that And if you're willing to grow and

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change, even if you don't fully know who

you are right now, knowing that you're

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on that journey to finding who you are

underneath all the people pleasing,

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underneath all the molding yourself

to make other people feel comfortable,

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underneath all of that protective layer is

your true essence, and people can see it.

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Listen to them when they tell you.

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Be open to receiving it and

then see how things shift.

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Thank you, Kevin, my improv teacher

for this beautiful mirror moment.

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You gave me all those years ago.

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I'll always be

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grateful.

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Diary of a Recovering People Pleaser
Real life stories of people pleasers healing in the wild
Humans learn through stories. Heal through stories. Feel SEEN through stories. That's why I created this podcast diary-style, for people to feel seen and know that you're not alone in your people pleaser ways. And to give you the courage to take steps towards healing.

The show is a mix of individual “diary entry” style episodes and interviews where we share relatable people pleasing stories, experiences and advice for your recovering people pleaser journey. All are welcome.

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Some topics and tools we’ll dive into along the way:
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